"A lot of the joy is in the difficulty": After spending 400+ hours dying 15,000 times in a painful Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree run, streamer admits challenges have "ruined normal gaming" for him

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The Soulsborne community is packed with people determined to make difficult games even harder, but that has its consequences, as one Elden Ring player fresh off their latest challenge run victory admits that taking on trials like his recent Shadow of the Erdtree playthrough have "ruined normal gaming" for him.

Last year, streamer Dan Gheesling embarked on a grand quest in Shadow of the Erdtree, aiming to complete the whole thing without using the DLC's Scadutree Fragments (essential to boost your attack and resistances in the expansion), resin to craft weapon-buffing greases, or leveling up his vigor stat for more HP. It's definitely not the way FromSoftware intended anyone to play, and his 423-hour playtime and 15,522 deaths prove it, but after finally finishing the run a few days ago, he's already on the lookout for his next challenge.

Speaking to 12DOVE, Gheesling says he reckons "at some point, I will go through all of the Souls games with no HP," but after such a lengthy run, "I'm looking forward to doing some very difficult but shorter challenges. So that's what we're cooking up right now, before we take on the next big chunk."

He's not limiting himself to Soulsborne games, mind you, noting that he likes to play "anything that is wildly challenging" since it's fun to watch, and wants to beat TrickShot Simulator in the future. Clearly, that constant aim to take on anything grueling has become somewhat baked into the streamer's mindset, as he admits: "The one thing I will say that these challenges have done, it's kind of ruined normal gaming. It's very hard to just play a normal playthrough now of a game, because, to me, a lot of the joy is in the difficulty."

Gheesling certainly has more patience than me, anyway – the hours I spent fighting Promised Consort Radahn with the stat boosts the streamer denied himself were plenty enough for me, and I can't imagine the anguish of losing to him over 3,000 times. Despite it all, though, he remained totally determined throughout: "Once I start a challenge, there's really no giving up."

If you're on the lookout for your next game, be sure to check out our roundup of games like Elden Ring you should try next.

Catherine Lewis
News Writer

I'm one of 12DOVE's news writers, who works alongside the rest of the news team to deliver cool gaming stories that we love. After spending more hours than I can count filling The University of Sheffield's student newspaper with Pokemon and indie game content, and picking up a degree in Journalism Studies, I started my career at GAMINGbible where I worked as a journalist for over a year and a half. I then became TechRadar Gaming's news writer, where I sourced stories and wrote about all sorts of intriguing topics. In my spare time, you're sure to find me on my Nintendo Switch or PS5 playing through story-driven RPGs like Xenoblade Chronicles and Persona 5 Royal, nuzlocking old Pokemon games, or going for a Victory Royale in Fortnite.

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